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"How did you get into Rally?"

I learned about rallying while I was competing at an autocross.  A friend, soon to be my navigator, walked up and asked "Hey, Lesley, do you want to do a rally with me?"  I asked, "What is a rally?"  Karen said, "Don't worry - you'll like it.  You can drive, and I'll navigate." 

So I went to my first rally, which was a trap event.  Since my hobby in college was driving my Audi Fox as fast as I could down all the roads within an hours radius, I knew all the roads on the rally so we didn't get lost.  We ran trap rallies for a couple of years, but my favorite event each year  was one with a tulip-format event and exact mileages to the intersections.  Karen thought they were boring, because the navigator didn't have to work hard to figure out which way to turn.  I thought the events were *great* because I got to drive much faster, and had a ball flinging the Audi around on the roads.  Then we discovered the NEPRO series of tulip-format events.  They were almost all dirt and relatively
high-speed.  I met the Houseals, who would come to the events in their PRO Rally car, and practice for the races.   I wanted to learn absolutely everything about PRO Rally, and bugged them endlessly with question after question, and visited them often where they lived in Lansdale.  I crewed for them at a couple of races, and decided that I had to drive in ProRallies, too.

I bought an old Datsun 510, and tried to turn it into a rally car.  I put a rollcage and harnesses in, and skipped classes to go out to Detroit for a rally school that was being held there.  Jon Woodner was one of the instructors there, and he was a really great guy.  I set one of the fastest stage times on a mini-stage that Jon had set up.  His comment to me was:"Lesley, you're a really fast driver, but you've got to get a real car."  I've often wondered since then what he would say about the Dodge Charger ;-)))  Since I was a college student, I couldn't really afford to go rallying, so I never got a chance to race until years later. 

Actually, it is because of Diane Houseal and Ed Brennan that I finally got my opportunity to race.  I remember that a month or so before, I was visiting with them and admitted that I was giving up on my dream of racing.  I just couldn't make it work on my budget, it seemed so unattainable.  I guess Diane and Ed had a chat, and decided that they could whip Ed's old Saab 99 into shape and get it ready for the Ski Sawmill Rally Right weekend, which Boyd Smith organized at the time.  I borrowed Ed's Saab to go to the school, and had Mark Everett as an instructor.  I'll never forget
walking in to the finish after the rally, and somebody said "Lesley, congratulations on finishing your first race!"  I was on cloud nine.  It felt absolutely great!

Since then, I took over organizing the Rally Right school, to help other people get into the sport.  I really love the sport, and all the people that I have met.  I think that the people associated with rallying in North America are some of the nicest people you'll ever meet.  And it's an opinion shared by "outsiders" that I have brought to the events with me.
They all say the same thing, "I can't believe how nice everyone was!" 

So, that's how I found out about rallying, and finally got to go racing myself!  

Lesley
Shelby East Dodge Charger #38

Early Production Class Rabbit! SCCA Olympus WRC 1986

Backwards Into Rally

My name is Bob Barrall and I got started in rallying in a very backwards kind of way.  Back in 1985 I bought a VW GTI and suddenly driving was fun and not just a way to get from point A to point B.  I and my girlfriend at the time entered a little sign hunt rally and had a good time.  A few weeks later we entered one in NJ near where she worked and I met there a whole bunch of TSD rally crazies including a fella who used to drive for some of the blind groups my father was active with in the 60's.  Soon I was hooked on TSD rallies and trap rallies and ran all over the PA, NJ area and up into
New England.I had read about this thing called PRO Rally but didn't really know what it was about so I went one weekend with Joe Kwietek to work the Tiadaghton '90 PRO Rally.  What a blast! I went to STPR a few weeks later and soon joined BMR and meet up with folks like Dean Fry and Leslie and all the BMR crazies.  One day Gerry Brinkman called me up and asked if I wanted to ride the right hand seat for STPR. I had crewed for him at his first STPR and his co-driver had broken his collar bone when he was hit by a drunk driver.  I ordered my "silly suit" the next day. We ran Sawmill in Dean's old Subee DL and I was hooked.  This has got to be the greatest motorsport on earth with the nicest folks I have ever encountered.  It doesn't matter if it's a Saturday sign hunt or a National Pro Rally, there is something about the rally community that is unique and special.  I look forward to
seeing everyone in Maine.

wheels down, roof up :-)
  Bob

Hi, my name is Buck Rozelle and I have been a "silent" member of this list for about one year.

I live in West Wyoming, PA (near Wilkes-Barre). Wellsboro is about a two hour drive in my '93 Chevy Blazer. I have lived in Northeast PA most of my life. A little over ten years ago, I met a guy named Bob Nace when I was a casual carrier with the United States Postal Service. He said that his step-father-in-law was John Robinson. He and  took me and another friend to the STPR in 1986 and 1987. At the time, I was also working for the local newspaper, covering motor sports.

Before that, I had been spectator at Formula One at Watkins Glen ('79 and '80), IMSA at Daytona, Sebring, Miami and Pocono International Raceway (PIR is about 30 minutes from our house), Top Fuel at Maple Grove (during Joe Amato's reign), NASCAR at Pocono and Dover (there is nothing like the sound of forty 'merican V8s screaming by!), CART at Pocono (scary fast, wish they would come back to Pocono) and Nazareth (about 90 minutes from my house), and Trans Am at Lime Rock (nice track).

They only thing I can remember about STPR in '86 and '87 is that finding the cars was an adventure and I loved every minute of it! I remember parking my '72 Monte Carlo somewhere on a dirt road (off the road of course) and hiding
behind a tree while the cars came by at night, in the pouring rain. I thought that it was the most interesting form of motor racing. I thoroughly enjoyed STPR in '99 and would like to come back in '00 as a competitor. My son and I are working on getting up to Maine for the next ProRally.

Picked up a Flyer

Alex: In 1965 I picked up a flyer at the print center of one of the Boeing Company offices in Seattle that advertised a "rally", at the time I was  involved the sport of "Drag Racing" with a factory prepared Pontiac GTO.... The flyer said that the rally lasted all day and the entry fee was only $10.00....(this was incredible.. drag racing costs tons more  that
this!), so I went on my first rally.  My car didn't like going 24 MPH in a 25 zone, and definitely was the wrong type of car for rallying....  This rally was a Time-Speed-Distance event and you had to average the speed given on the instructions... Well.... here is instruction number 68 (R at STOP, change  speed to 100).... now this I could do. Turned left and lite them up!  Of course instruction number 69 was (L first OPP which was ten feet from instruction #68... I went through an "off route" control at about 105 MPH with the tires still smok'in.... that's when I learned about traps on these types of rallies...  I met a bunch of great people, had a great time, wenthome and bought a more suitable car and began my rally career.

After a while it was obvious that a large number of the TSD rally drivers would like to drive faster... Then we moved the rallies off the paved on the  wonderful logging roads in our area (Washington State)... we started closing the roads to traffic and what we call PRORally began in the US.  Eventually my rally, the Olympus became the premier rally in N.A. and was three rounds of the FIA WRC for three years in the 1980s.  I never was a Great Rally Driver, but a competitive one.  The best part about racing on a rally is the feeling when it's over... complete peace.. all your concerns, worries, and problems seem to disappear.  Cleanses the soul maybe.. There's a story for you.

John Nagel
Chairman - North American Rally Association

Austin Healey

My first car was an Austin-Healey. What do you do with British sports cars but rally them? We got lost. I thought it was dumb. Fast -forward a few years; a college pal persuades me it would be fun to go on a rally, driving my Volvo wagon. This time, we got a trophy out of the deal. In fact, we got trophies in the next 3 or 4 events. Emboldened by our new-found prowess, we enter an event in New Jersey called "Roaring Borealis". Brisk speeds, dirt
roads, all night long. We get hooked on dirt. We start going to all the NEPro/NEPRS events and work STPR in 1979. The big time. The next year we are competitors at STPR. I don't see any end in sight...

Phil Barnes
Cortland, NY
peb3@cornell.edu

Drive in the Country

I was introduced to rallying back in 1987.  Some friends were out for a nice drive in the country.  When they came across, they couldn't believe it, a
white Lancia Delta out on a recce!  With none other than Miki Biasion at the
wheel!  They were out for the Olympus WRC.  Needless to say we went down to Tacoma and watched the tarmac stages on the FREEWAYS and CITY STREETS in Tacoma. At the time we didn't know that they were running out into the woods.  We went in 1988 also.  After we heard that the Olympus was not running in 1989.

We thought that there was no more rallying until meeting Jeff Feet in 1994.  Some friends and I started volunteering for corner marshals.  We had several
scares with "runaway cars!".

Then in 1997 I was approached by an old co-worker who was doing performance work at a dealership.  The manager told me that if I built a car they would sponsor me!  Could you believe that, I had never even raced a rally car before.  And they wanted to sponsor me!  I ran all of the rallies up here
after the Doo Wops.  Because the car wasn't finished at the time of the Doo
Wops.  I managed a 5th overall in class 3 and, I think, 12th overall in U2
here in the NW.

I am taking this year off to get me a service vehicle and trailer.  I am also looking to improve the performance of my Celica.  Which includes closer
ratio transmission and revised coil-overs.

Over all it has been a blast!  I can't wait to compete next year and eventually compete in the National Series!  I must thank all the people that have been there to help me!  You know who you are!

Sincerely ready to rally again,

Brad Bliven
bmd rally group

Started with a Rally  called Autumntyre!

In the Fall of 1972, while attending graduate school in upstate New York, I heard an announcement on the school radio station, WRPI, about a road rally that they were sponsoring.  I think it was called the Autumntrye and was a time-speed-distance event with some gimmicks like a maze.  One of my roommates drove his AMC Javelin AMX and I navigated with a slide rule.  I think there were over one hundred cars and we finished with a third place trophy.  I was 22 years old and could not believe that I had been missing out on this game. I had been driving for about 6 years, beginning with a '61 Chevy Impala, then after High School a Datsun 1600 followed by an 1800. 

In the spring of 1973, there must have been two rallies - the radio station sponsored Springleaf and another organized by the Rensselaer Sports Car Association.  I had never realized that these types of events were happening.  I must have had my head in the books or somewhere.  That must have been when I started to make up for lost time.  That summer, we found some local clubs, such as Empire Motors Sports Club out of the Albany area and the Berkshire Motor Sports Club out of Pittsfield, Mass.  We tried some autocross and time trials on the track at Limerock Connecticut. With trophies on 4 out of 5 events, rally became my motor sport of choice.  We began to run further a-field on some of the events in the All-Night Rally Series.

While going to school on a teaching fellowship and moonlighting as a computer programmer, I was about to buy my bosses Datsun 2000 but instead managed to find myself in a brand new 240Z.  I was rallying with other people from school or work that wanted to see what I did;  this included my future wife, Linda, with whom on our first event, we came in first overall
and got our names in the headlines of a newspaper article about the rally. In 1974 we were introduced to the New England Region/Sports Car Club of America.   That fall, we used Linda's Chevy Nova on a Double National weekend and came home with some hardware (in non-championship class).   

It has been about 500 rallies since then - driving or navigating or organizing - with many different partners in all classes and positions, any sex or age, not necessarily human or even visible if that matters.  (At one time, someone wanted the concession for "I rallied with Val" t-shirts.) Here in the northeast there is at least one rally every weekend.  I have also rallied in or through most of the states and provinces. There has been a few wins, a few trophies, a few championships, a few contingency prizes, a few war stories, a few scratches, a few rollovers, but only one incident with a gun pointed at the car. I have no words of wisdom for safe and successful rallying, just show up at the headquarters before registration closes.  

After my daughter was born I dropped out completely for 5 years, but now at age 8 she is my favorite rally partner.

Val
License Plate - V.Rally
Covered Bridge Rally Team

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